……………………..Limits are for governments.

Quoting Napoleon, Just This Once

“He who knows only his own generation remains always a child.”

16 responses


    Zeke January 2, 2015 at 7:17 pm
    “You only broke the law, or the rules, if you got caught.”

    If you get caught, you will potentially lose reputation, wealth, position, power, or privileges. And that is indeed an essential outward constraint that does work on people who have no conscience otherwise.

    They have no inward concern for good or evil behavior and the many consequences for the people affected by it.

    If the outward constraints are removed, and the reprehensible behavior becomes first legal, then acceptable through media, then what? What is it that you get, exactly? All pleasurable romps and personal power and no consequences. The Boomers press on in their experiment. Let us see what the gospel of “every imaginable pleasure with no consequences” obtains. Just watch.

    DonM January 2, 2015 at 8:04 pm
    The problem is that the general understanding of what “reprehensible behavior” is, is slowly changing to encompass less and less stuff. And more and more people subscribe to “its O.K. if I don’t get caught and/or it is for the greater good”.

    Or maybe it has always been like this. I have only been around for half a century and have only been paying attention for a small percentage of that.

    Are there a higher percentage of dirtbags and charletans out there now as compared to 100 years ago, or is it that we just let ‘em get away with it now because we are in a more “civilized society”, or it is something else?

    Zeke January 2, 2015 at 11:55 pm
    If you define “charlatans” as hippy environmentalists who are using an Anthropocene Age scientific paradigm as an excuse to rip out the energy, plumbing, agriculture, dairy and beef ranching, personal transportation, and mass manufacturing in the English speaking nations, and are are simultaneously conducting massive sex-and-drug cultural campaigns, yes. There are more charlatans than ever.

    PiperPaul January 3, 2015 at 5:26 pm
    It certainly seems to be easier now to feign/fake competence, what with the electrified fooling machine we all use.

    The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality from fantasy, truth from propaganda. Perceiving the truth has always been a challenge to mankind, but in the information age (or as I think of it, the disinformation age) it takes on a special urgency and importance.

    – Michael Crichton

    V-eng January 3, 2015 at 7:15 am
    As part of the Boomer experiment, they have rivaled Stalin, Mao, etc. in the murder department is you look at one of the enablers of “every imaginable pleasure with no consequences,” that being abortion on demand.

    It is interesting to note the current feminist attempt to cut down on some of that with their re-definition of rape.

    Zeke January 3, 2015 at 8:52 am
    It is far beyond that now.

    Now they expect others to pay for it in their insurance policies by force of the government and the IRS. Do you honestly think people will pay for that? No, they have to cancel their insurance coverage and become criminals!

    So we come full circle to eugenics/population control through government through the Cannabis Generation. And not a single word of regret or self-reflection do we ever get from them.

    March 24, 2018 at 5:28 pm

  2. willybamboo January 13, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    Science and religion are both epistemologies: Ways of knowing things. Religious knowledge comes from revelation. God speaks, prophets speak, scriptures speak, and they reveal things and you listen and gain religious knowledge (epistemologically speaking). In other words you know it is true because God told you it was true.

    Scientific method also reveals truth. You conduct experiments, you measure things, you observe the results of your experiments and your measurements, and you know certain things are true. Most people don’t realize how narrow (epistemologically speaking) scientific knowledge is. In other words there are a lot of expansive conclusions drawn from the science method that the experiments and measurements don’t justify. An honest scientist says, “I don’t know” often. Especially dealing with something as complex as atmosphere and climate. You have many dishonest scientists.

    So epistemologically speaking, CAGW is not a religion. It is very bad science. If you assert it is a religion you are asserting something that is not true.

    Zeke January 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    And may I remind scientists that any time grand social engineering experiments and policies based on scientific theories are carried out, you are obligated to observe, acknowledge, and publish the results.

    In the case of Lysenkoism, Great Leap destruction of agriculture, failed renewables, and eugenics/population control — these were all carried out in the 1900’s.

    Now decide if the intellectuals, activists, scientists and engineers got the results they intended (or promised their followers) from these scientific paradigm shifts.

    This transformism of scientific failures into “religion” looks like Alchemy to me.

    March 24, 2018 at 5:33 pm

  3. Zeke January 9, 2015 at 11:00 am

    It was the adherence to the Greek and Roman writers in the Roman Church that was the source of ossified thinking during the Middle Ages. Learning and science could only begin to advance by “stripping off” scholastic reliance on Greek and Roman writing:

    “[I]t becomes a thing not only useful, but

    absolutely necessary, that the excess of honor and admiration with which

    our existing stock of inventions is regarded be in the very entrance and

    threshold of the work, and that frankly and without circumlocution stripped

    off, and men be duly warned not to exaggerate or make too much of them.”

    ~Francis Bacon

    It remains a most stunning sleight of hand that Christians are faulted for having impeded knowledge for centuries, when it was really the scholastics and monks, writing in Latin and studying the Greek and Roman writers, who were the source of this stagnation of understanding. In logic they taught Porphyry, in all things Aristotle and Plato, in geography and astronomy, Ptolemy, and of the human body they taught Galen. The maps of Ptolemy and his astronomy were the dogma of the Roman Church. All scientists and inventors who discovered anything were overturning some matter of dogma from the Classical scholars which Rome enforced.

    And yet this does not stop modern scholars from claiming that science and learning has been renewed from the Dark and Middle Ages, by returning to the works of the pagan philosophers and logicians, that is, the Greeks! It was adherence to and dogged memorization of Greek works that cemented all learning for centuries. The Roman Church, moreover, even forbade the translation of Scriptures into any vernacular language – for example, Pope Innocent III forbade Bible reading in the common language in 1200.

    Zeke January 9, 2015 at 11:12 am

    The geography by Ptolemy was incorrect. This kept most Europeans from attempting to round the southern tip of Africa to go to India for centuries. Exceptions to the rule, such as Vikings and Basques, would have had a high degree of independence from the Roman Church – for Basques refused to have their priests appointed for them from outside. Wisely.

    The map from the 1400’s that is claimed to be Ptolemy’s map was different from all descriptions and maps based on Ptolemy’s writings before that. A monk somewhere drew a passage which would allow circumnavigation of earth. This may have inspired travel, or helped the bolder Italian explorers convince fearful sailors to strike West, but it is not a Ptolemaic map (except it still has the southern hemisphere totally wrong as Ptolemy did.

    In nearly all areas of discovery, invention, exploration and new observations, the lonely protagonists were in conflict with the ancient writers doggedly upheld by the Roman Church. Galileo is not an isolated case to be dismissed away.

    Zeke January 9, 2015 at 11:55 am
    Not only that, Peter was a married man! :)

    Zeke January 3, 2015 at 11:34 am

    Tim Ball writes:

    “The active pursuit of data and use of methods to create the desired scientific, and thereby political, outcome was morally and scientifically wrong. This was bolstered by what was left out…”

    This is so well said. The truth about science and scientists (and also the truth about historians) is that they love theories and are deeply devoted to them. This is why Francis Bacon quaintly but it turns out accurately called theories “idols of the mind.” He proposed a new method of inquiry that laid aside Greek philosophers and relied instead on empirical observations guided by experiment.

    The answer is not necessarily to expect individual scientists to show regard for truth or to seek the disproof of his theory. Karl Popper explained that that is not always realistic. The only way out of the abject devotion to theory and institutions by scientists and historians is rational criticism by scientists and historians who have a good alternative theory.

    (And rational criticism from anyone who can express himself reasonably well, Popper added.)

    March 24, 2018 at 5:44 pm

  4. Gunga Din January 13, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    “Social” cost of carbon.
    Hmmm….if I’m not mistaken, concrete is one of the unsung heroes in the advancement of society.
    What are the ingredients of concrete? One of them is lime. Made from limestone. They take limestone and crush it then heat it to drive off a CO2 molecule from the calcium carbonate.
    What would be the cost to a society if the manufacture of concrete was banned?
    Anybody out there drink water? If it’s from a municipal source then there’s a good chance the water plant uses lime to treat the water. More CO2.
    Part of the process in many of those water plants is adding CO2 back into the water after the lime addition and settling. (To change the remaining carbonates back into bicarbonates.)
    We release about 5 tons a day, everyday where I work. Some of it escapes into the air.

    How many “CO2 is pollution” promoters are willing to not have a road to drive on or mortar to bond the bricks of their houses?
    Would they go back to hauling their water from the nearest stream?

    Coal, gas, and oil energy production aren’t the only things that produce CO2 emissions.

    PS Our current CO2 suppler gets it from ethanol production.
    What goes around comes around.

    March 24, 2018 at 5:50 pm

  5. willybamboo commented on Charlie Hebdo, Climate Skepticism & Free Speech.

    in response to M Simon: “What would prove AGW incorrect? If nothing then AGW is more religious than scientific.”

    How do CAGW supporters ‘know’ they are right? How do they know what they believe is true? Is there authority ‘revealing’ truth to them? Or do they look for the missing heat so they can measure it? Do they count tree rings? Do they measure SST?

    They practice very bad science. No null hypothesis. Too many statistics. They don’t every seem to acknowledge the theory remains unproven. But they are not hearing voices or reading scripture. They have no prophets who speak for God. Ptolemy’s geocentric model was wrong and Ptolemy was into astrology, but the Ptolemaic system is scientific.

    In my opinion Islam is a deeply flawed religion. But we all agree it is a religion. I hope nobody is confused and thinks Islam is science.

    Just because some idea is widely believed and it is false doesn’t make it a religion. Scientists constantly balk at drawing broad conclusions when someone proves something is false. Because Global warming is about the future, it is bound to always be bad, flawed, science because science can’t say anything specific about the future. … and almost nothing about the past. Science is a very narrow way of knowing things.

    The hubris of certainty is not an exclusive characteristic of the religious.

    March 24, 2018 at 5:51 pm

  6. Duster January 27, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    As regards public health, the entire pattern of what we see in “climate policy” began there (in Public Health). To this day publications that dissent from the consensus “view” that fat is bad, cholesterol levels are meaningful, and salt is a poison, are “debunked” by extraordinarily weak reasoning, and their authors are targeted by personal attack rather than reasoned refutation supported by data. As recently as 1994 an assistant deputy secretary for health attempted to prevent the publication of the results of a government funded study, because the results, while not outright contradicting standing recommendations regarding fat consumption, demonstrated that the “protective” effect was so trivial as to be indiscernible to the individual. Like climate policy, health policy is guided by “precautionary principles” not framed by string results and best practices, but by weak correlations and “what if they are right” reasoning.

    Zeke January 27, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    The Anthropocene Age scientific paradigm rests on the idea that if any chemical can be found to be harmful in very high dosages in a lab rat, then it must be reduced to zero exposure in the environment. This extends to 10,000 chemicals now in use by people in any process to grow food or make things. See Edith Efron’s book, The Apocalyptics.

    As Duster has pointed out, this same paradigm has its application in nutrition as well.The end result is that nutrients that the body needs to function properly are now being strictly controlled, and even eliminated from the food supply under the guise of the “public good,” or “public health.” Salt is one example, but B12 is the most important since it only comes from animal products.

    salt ref: http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20140402/cdc-salt-guidelines-too-low-for-good-health-study-suggests

    Now for those who do not appreciate that this is a scientific paradigm shift brought about during the 60’s by the Cannabis Generation, I want to ask you not to overlook so easily the tremendous amounts of labor, study, and research that it takes to undo all of the bad ideas, paradigms, and destructive movements that have been taught to the following generations by the Boomers. Please, at least acknowledge this labor the rest of us have had to exert in straightening ourselves out after being totally and thoroughly miseducated by the Boomers in science, history, nutrition, occult horse manure, sex-and-drug cultural campaigns, population control, anti-agriculture activism, vegetarian activism, anti-middle-class activism, and all manner of hatreds, schemes, and betrayals against all of the English speaking countries.

    The same science that convicts a benign or beneficial pesticide, herbicide, or fungicide has now fingered co2 from power generation and travel, methane from cows, nitrous oxide from crops, and cfcs from refrigerants. And it also includes the very essential nutrients you need – and the needs of domesticated animals – as unsustainable and bad for you!

    As you see, AGW is only a subcomponent of the Anthropocene Age paradigm. This scientific paradigm produces thousands of studies whose sole purpose is to convict the slightest molecular presence of harming health or of disrupting the environment.

    March 24, 2018 at 6:00 pm

  7. Zeke February 25, 2015 at 1:20 pm
    “For me the protection of Planet Earth, the survival of all species and sustainability of our ecosystems is more than a mission. It is my religion and my dharma.”

    This is very familiar to those of us who were raised and educated by Boomers. I view it as simply “replacement ethics.” People who abandon any natural affection, loyalty, and care for for their own spouses, family, and country become highly vocal about how they love the whole planet instead. But the rest of us are still are left picking up the pieces of their reckless, self-indulgent decisions.

    Likewise, another illustration of “replacement ethics” can be found in Hippy dietary fads. While taking all manner of psychotropic medications and schedule one substances, they then strain at a stray molecule on a conventionally grown tomato. They weep over the lost nutrition in frozen food, as if it was better not to have eaten the vegetable at all, than to be missing some miniscule vitamin C molecule that was lost in the process of preservation.. I actually don’t care about private dietary decisions, but please notice that the Baby Boomers take their personal dietary decisions to scientific and regulatory levels, in order to make these decisions for every one else. A likely reason for this is the following. The void created by aggressive and ubiquitous sex-and-drug-occult cultural campaigns was disturbing enough to the Cannabis Generation that “replacement ethics” had to be adopted – to allow people to still feel highly “ethical” and moral. The “replacement ethics” allows moral high ground through doing something so trivial as eating an organic tomato on a vegan sandwich.

    And in response to the accusation of bad science being “religion,” it is not. It is the human tendency to love theory above anything else. It is axiomatic that human beings love scientific, historical, and political theories. The evidence of this is that they do not regard the obvious failures of their beloved constructs, and they despise and try to suppress those who do not favor their theory.

    But the positive side of the love of theory is that it can motivate the individual scientist or historian to do interesting, new, and useful work.

    “The love of theory is the root of all evil.”

    March 24, 2018 at 6:02 pm

  8. Unmentionable February 3, 2015 at 7:44 pm
    “Where do these people come from, and how is it they have such a warped sense of reality and scale?”

    Not really a mystery Anthony, common garden-variety mental impairment, of someone who’s not recognized and not admitted they have a functional brain impairment issue or illness, and are still putting nutty hype into their undermined brain anyway, so out comes such ‘sensible’ conclusions.

    Possibly aided by trenchant chemical abuse associated with the natural leafy herbal correctives Gaia produces to relax its worshipers and make them think clearer and better development an advanced sense of morality (you can see that from the implied analysis leading to those conclusions), and thus provides the necessary deep insights into how Gaia wishes humanity to be. And if you up the dosage and hang in there with it, it becomes even clearer, because Gaia then starts talking back to you directly, and uses your own brain and mouth to do it! Bonus!

    It’s like a cosmic 2-way radio man!!

    And Gaia keeps saying, “Kill the recalcitrant apes, kill them NOW!”

    If you opened your mind up to other possibilities and put some effort into extending your moral consciousness and emotional quotient you would understand the higher source of such tweets, and comprehend a bigger picture or human and planetary integration of mind, man.

    Hey man, it happens!

    highflight56433 February 3, 2015 at 9:42 pm
    His twitter pals remind be of the 1960’s flower children: enhancement by hemp. I suppose none use any petroleum based amenities, nor toilet paper to which noble cause would save a tree. lol

    Barry Aubin @SaintAubinN · 9h 9 hours ago
    Petition: Sue #FossilFuels companies for damage to #environment

    PLS sign/RT

    Unmentionable February 3, 2015 at 10:18 pm
    A cautionary tale of why drinking the bong water when your stash runs out is not a harmless habit.

    mickyhcorbett75 February 4, 2015 at 4:31 am
    Two things:

    Can I sue this guy for getting first degree stupid burns?

    Did you notice there’s no Arctic ice cap in the painting of the Earth?

    March 24, 2018 at 6:05 pm

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  10. Zeke March 19, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    Catherine Ranconi says, ” In fact, belief systems of all kinds, whether political ideology or religion, apparently make people more murderous.”

    As usual, it has been rewarding to talk with you. Thank you for that observation. Let me restate that just a little, so that it is clear. Men love their theories and are deeply devoted to them. Devotion to theory is what really motivates all work in history, economics, political activism and science. No one starts with an objective neutral frame of reference, and proceeds with the evidence where ever it leads.

    I suppose adherents of grand scientific theories build character in the rest of us. Putting up with their claims of objective knowledge, pristine-as-the-driven-snow neutrality, and uniquely unbiased inquiry develops our patience and longsuffering. Cheers Catherine Ranconi.

    March 24, 2018 at 6:08 pm

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  12. Zeke March 19, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    Not to “detract from the enjoyment thereof by other members of the subspecies.” — I suppose that is a nice enough gospel of sorts. In fact I am sure many here will be quite warmed by it. (:

    Although, my experience leads me to conclude that people need to watch very, very closely what a particular group says about human origins and about the distant past, because they are in reality stating what they want to use for a future crafting of society. In other words, animals reduced to pens, breeding, and vegan local only organic foraging is now the undeniable political object of these same people who claim we were once apes and orangutans.

    The scientific paradigm of the Anthropocene Age requires the powers that be to save the “fragile planet” from environmental “tipping points” set off by any and all human life – agriculture, energy, personal transportation, children and homes. They even hate cattle and chickens – and the farmers who raise them – for heaven’s sake.

    In the end, this scientific paradigm will decidedly “detract from the enjoyment thereof by other members of the subspecies”!

    March 24, 2018 at 6:20 pm

  13. Man is not, has never been, and never will be an ape or any other of those primates. Human kind is either far above the ape in understanding and will, or by groveling and unwise thoughts and choices he sinks far beneath the ape in understanding and will.

    March 24, 2018 at 6:21 pm

  14. Zeke March 21, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    I am well aware that history is being re-written to remove Christians from American history and from science history. This re-writing of history is aggressive and shameless. (Apparently we even have a President claiming that Jefferson was a Muslim sympathizer, had a Qu’ran and that Islam is woven into the country’s founding.)

    My caution to anyone is that if a member of the Cannabis Generation’s mouth is moving, speaking or writing publicly about any Christian, or any passage of the Bible, it would be wise to consider that the opposite of whatever he is saying is much closer to the truth.

    Madison, Adams, and Washington made their faith in the Word and the Savior (Y’shua) clear in speeches and writings. They did understand that they worked along side natural philosophers and even trendy European intellectuals. They each warned that even a society based on individual freedom has no solid foundation if there is no love, integrity, duty, and grace of God in people’s hearts.

    This is how history is re-written: Once a Christian dies, atheist/agnostic academics suddenly become experts in what the departed really believed. This altering of the actual Christian faith of scientists and historical figures is especially easy to accomplish on the internet.

    March 24, 2018 at 6:29 pm

  15. Zeke March 21, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    takebackthegreen says, “The very fact that intelligent people who are knowledgeable about science bother to engage this nonsense is like feeding pigeons: it gives them sustenance, it attracts more pigeons, and your surroundings end up covered in sh*t.”

    I have read in the good book that during a siege by the Assyrians in the land of Israel in the 8th century BC, dove droppings could be sold for several days’ wages. Therefore we have historic record that at least in the worst circumstances dove scat has some nutritional value.

    UNESCO approved versions of world history, on the other hand, have nothing like that dove s#&^ recommend it, and even less of taste to the heart and mind. And it should give many people pause to wonder why the UNESCO World Empire bunch is so anxious to wipe out our book, to undo agriculture, energy, and personal transportation, and expunge our contributions to freedom, science, and history.

    March 24, 2018 at 6:30 pm

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